Toyota Tundra Diesel CONFIRMED
Jason Lancaster | Jan 14, 2008 | Comments 29
UPDATE: Unfortunately, this is old news. Toyota back-tracked on this announcement and these plans are dead. Read the full story on the diesel Toyota Tundra.
Boy, do we like it when we’re right…here’s the Reuter’s press release trimmed-down to the important facts:
Toyota President Katsuaki Watanabe said on Sunday the Japanese automaker will launch a diesel-powered Tundra pickup truck and Sequoia SUV in the United States…Toyota has repeatedly hesitated to committing a diesel vehicle for the U.S. market…especially for use in larger vehicles.
“I am happy to confirm that a new clean-diesel V8 engine will be offered in both the Tundra and the Sequoia in the near future,” Watanabe told a news conference at the North American International Auto Show.
The “near future” is likely to be next year…we think the Diesel Tundra will debut in late 2009 as a 2010 model. Toyota usually doesn’t disclose information like this unless they’re more than halfway to production. Most industry experts agree that 3 years are needed to develop and produce a new power train, so we’re reasonably sure the 2010 model will have a diesel. That will coincide with an F150 diesel launch scheduled for the same year.
So the race is one to predict the new Tundra diesel’s displacement, horsepower, and torque…anyone want to guess? What about all the cool new accessories that come with a new diesel?
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I’m sure they will use the new 4.5 L from the land cruiser . Toyota will not be building a new one for the current 1/2 ton when they have one that would work just fine . When they build a 1 Ton they will need a larger diesel but not now
since the Tundra has a 2000 lb payload capacity i would classify it as a 1 ton but thats just me.
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Only problem I see is the Tundras are already $3-4,000 more expensive than similar trucks in their class. The diesel option undoubtedly will only go into the high trim lines (limited) like everyone else has done. I’m curious what will this little gem cost? Right now the double cab 4×4 tundra is around $35000 with a v8 gasser. Add the diesel option and you’re in $40-45,000 truck territory (aka same price as Dodge, Chevy, Ford). Why automakers keep missing the mark is troubling. We already have big $40k trucks that pull houses over in a single bound. What people want are efficient turbo diesel trucks like they sells everywhere else. A D-4D Tacoma would be nice.
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I think that Toyota Trucks are pretty cool-cooler if produced in the United States, and not overseas. Either way, they are still not as cool as the big three, the real trucks
Many of you seem to be expecting a Diesel engine in the ranges of something like a Cummins, Powerstroke price range, however, with some good insight into the forth coming 4.5 liter Duramax and the new light duty dodge deisel for their 1500 series, you may be suprised to learn the the cost of these engines in many 1/2tons will remain in a range of $2500 to $3500, and be available across the full range of trucks from both of these manufactures. I’ve been selling all these brands and Ford for over 15 years now, and can tell you Toyota will not be stingy with the availability of their diesel engine when it becomes available. I would expect a clean burning version of the 4.5 liter V8 used elsewhere in the world, and in our market would expect between 275 and 300H.P., along with 475 to 525 Lb.Ft. of torque. When couple with the wonderful 6-speed automatic in the new Tundra, and geared acordingly, it’ll make for a helluva truck! I would suspect it’ll fall in similar ranges with the new 4.5 Liter Duramax GM is introducing, so it wouldnt be unreasonable to expect anywhere from 22 to 25 MPG as a EPA rating. that puts a nicely equipped SR5 d-cab 4WD short-bed in the $38k price range! Who wouldnt like a truck that eficient that can tow up to 10 or 11 thousand pounds comfortably!
I got some inside information that alot of Toyota engineers were at the Caterpillar plant last year. Their story was that they were helping in the design of the new controls for the M series Blade, but the rumor is they were talking about a truck engine. A CAT powered Tundra would be awesome!
8.0 Liter Hino 300 some horsepower
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So whoever is in the making of it…Hino, CAT, Isuzu – combo of all 3 – whatever – why don’t they put a selector switch on it from the factory?
If EDGE and teh aftermarket can do it so easily, why not from the factory? Have a “Stock”, “Mileage” and “Power” setting or something. That would be very easy to do and a NICE feature I’d think.
Granted you couldn’t push it too far, and the aftermarket will always come up with something to top it, but no one else has it!
Let’s hope I don’t hear crickets…This could seriously work!
Headleyj – it’s a good idea. My guess is that the EPA would never go for it…they would conduct the test on all three settings and then use the mileage/emissions ratings from the worst setting.
Toyota would be at a severe disadvantage…perhaps if the EPA used an average to come up with mileage and emissions ratings, then maybe…
It has potential, but I think the govt. would need to provide some guidance before Toyota developed three distinct engine management profiles and a selector switch.
Still, it’s a good idea. Thanks for commenting.
Admin,
The way the EPA would interpret the data/ settings would be critical for sure. No manufacturer is going to put themselves at a disadvantage, BUT Ford doesn’t put mileage ratings on their F250 and F350, so when Toyota brings out a 3/4 or 1 ton, they wouldn’t be required to either (unless that loophole is closed by the time they come to market with a heavier truck). On the 1/2 ton, agreed something would need to be worked out with the EPA.
Having previously worked for a diesel engine manufacturer where our sole purpose was testing engines, the # of profiles and what you can do it almost limitless. If you give the engineers the freedom to create the different profiles, they might find some surprising results. By changing the target (torque at a rated speed) to “fuel consumption” or “torque at lower than rated RPM” etc., it could create some interesting findings.
What if the “tow” setting was for “off-road use only”? That’s how all the exhaust manufacturers get around it. I mean who ever heard of an “off-road only” exhaust for a 1997 Mustang Cobra? Um, it won’t go off-road, it sits 1″ off the ground.
Point is there’s ways to work with the hand that’s dealt.
Man – how do you get in focus groups with Toyota!? 🙂
I’m with DT. In today’s market, auto companies should be pushing fuel economy rather than H.P. The older Cummins 5.9 6BT were good for low 20’s mpg. These were detuned and had lower power ratings then their commercial brothers, but had plenty of power for pulling the horse trailer, boat, or camper. The Cummins 3.9 4BT (6BT with 2 cylinders lopped off) had even better efficiency but were only offered to the Mail Trucks.
MB/Freightliner has sold alot of the 2.5l 5cyl diesel vans. I’d love to own a Diesel Tundra, but within reason. I’m not going to spend 50k for a 8.0 liter Diesel for pulling my backhoes. That’s what the larger commercial dumps are for. I’ve read that Toyota has entered into an agreement with Catapillar for diesel engines. I don’t know how true this is, but hopefully if one of those goes into a Tundra the frontend won’t be so heavy you can’t put a plow on it.
This is a major problem of all the newer, larger, heavier diesels offered by Ford, Dodge, and GM. Too much weight over the front wheels, snow plow voids warranty. Be nice to have a 1 ton Diesel Tundra for 42-45k that gets mid to high 20’s mpg with just 450-500ft.lbs. of low rpm torque that one can put a plow on.
i just want one so i can put a Vegetable Oil Conversion System in it, or can i do that with the current tundras????
It’s about time. The rest of the world is using and appreciating the strength, reliability, and economy of a light diesel truck but here we are. I hope there will be a truck with simple trim available. Not just one for the high end purchaser. I need a diesel, five or six speed manual, and basic add ons. PLEASE get it right. Stop making Transformer trucks. We need practicallity. Look at what you offered folks in Australia or Brazil over the years. Very nice and useful. Thank you.
I agree whole heartedly with DT. What I REALLY need is a small engine high efficiency Diesel Tacoma. Something that makes at least 200 hp and 260 torque. Make that and I’m sold for teh next 5 iterations. I would even take it in a 4Runner.
I need to know where I can buy 2008 Toyota Tundra Diesel Dually Truck around Los Angeles and any state of US please let me know. I am interested to buy that truck as soon as possible, like today I get it!!!!!
Please let me know thank you
Michael
I would pay upfront now for a diesel Tacoma/Tundra 4X4 TRD. Where do I sign?! How come Toyota is so slow bringing their diesel technology to North America? They’ve had diesel HiLux trucks all over the world for as long as they’ve been making trucks! They can’t be that dirty.
I have owned 15 diesel Landcruisers and would be more than happy to have the 4.2 litre 6 cyl. diesel enginein a Tundra particularly if a right hand drive was available. The diesel Landcruiser is the beat tow vehicle that I have ever used. Toyota please note.
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I wonder if the Tundra will only be sold with duallys or will they also have one with two wheels in the rear
It was about time!!! I live in the dominican republic were these engines have been available for over 30 years, and I can tell you there much more efficient and reliable than the petrol ones, but there not very environmental friendly though. It will sure gonna help our imports.
Hello people. I build the Tundra in TX and there are no plans to put a deisel engine in a Tundra…..yet…..it’s on the shelf for now.
I echo one of the above bloggers sentiments. Please tell me where I can buy a 1 Ton Toyota Dually. Ford, Dodge & Chevy have severe problems with their diesel programs regarding the Low Sulfur Fuel. It seems to me that Toyota does their homework better and will produce a better product.
Not sure how many years ago, but VW had a small truck line equiped with a small diesel engine which got amazing mileage. I believe that they are very hard to find now. I think a small Cat diesel in a smaller truck would sell very nicely. I have a 50 HP portable Sawmill with a Cat engine. I can saw 20″ in diameter logs all day (8 hours) with running all the hydraulic pumps and small electric control motors on just 6 gallons of diesel fuel. Very amazine engine, and I’m even a Duramax man! I think that just having the (powered by Cat Diesel) emblem displayed on the side of the vehicle, would sell it, although the 35 to 40 mpg would probably help!
So what happened?
AJ – See the top of the article for a link to the updated info – comments on are now closed on this post.